MBBS in China

[Nightmare 0]

Dear Yatri ji

I am clearly differentiating the problems which we are facing here ,It doesnot mean that

each and every students from China will be useless , you see the topic carefully I have differentiated the students "not all the students" but most of them

next thing is that

we are in no regard with the Chinese language and Chinsese Students what we regard is the product and the quality ,we are having

we are in no regard with the technology and advancement of China ,but in the product that it produces ,and remind u one thing its not certain that an attractive outline be the stronger from within and again a developed and economically reach country doesnot mean that it must produce a good product .. As far as Chinese studetns are concerned they are labourious and we disregard them ,we reagard management ,policy and the quality of education .....

 

remember although China has each and all advancement over China but they are unutilizable and useless in a sense of the result ,

 

We are in no reagard of anything. You just compare one thing the students of China and Nepal nothing else ,and I have said it in majority

 

And Sawmer jee

read sentence 3 no. and

again it takes the regard of majority and monority and read 1 no it means

the sorting ,and thru sorting no poorer students can have a chance to read in Nepal and South Asia how can a comaparability arise ?

and

after all

the misery of Nepalese students would be known with these vast majority without filter in China like a mushroom in a dungeon and not all the mushrooms are edible ..........

 

 

[kvnathan 0]

Dear Nepali Friends,

Greetings from India.Today TIMES of INDIA Mumbai carried an article that all Medical colleges in India will charge Rs1.8 lakhs fees per year for Merit students from 2003-2004. In other words you have to spend Rs 10.00 lakhs to get MBBS degree. Unless you are very intelligent and from top 50, even in India you have useless colleges where they make money only and teach you nothing. You have to spend Rs 25.00 lakhs to get such useless degrees. With the increase in fees for Merit course now, theyi.e private colleges will charge 50 lakhs from 25 lakhs.

As aginst this Chinese degree costs only 8.00 lakhs, You can get internship and you can take up a job in Singapore, Hong kong etc or you can come back to Nepal or India. As you know we do not have much oppurtunites as India and Nepal has excess doctors. Added to that we have bogus degrees/quacks who cheat people.

What we need is to absorb these doctors or like IT industry these doctors will take up a job in Europe and USA.

Just because we do not have job['s for Doctors, why blame the Chinese University ?

If you are smart and learn Chinese, you can get a job in China itself. Chinese are not good in english, whereas we i.e India and Nepal are .

Let us use the best oppurtunity and improve our Knowledge and Jobs.

We represent 2 medical colleges from China.

I am giving below the details of one viz SOOCHOW,

The other one is Ningxia Medical college.

www.genesisinfoservices.com

http://www.soochowuniversity.com/contact.htm

SOOCHOW IS A 100 YEAR OLD UNIVERSITY AND STARTED BY CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES.NATURALLY MEDIUM OF EDUCATION IS ENGLISH .

Ningxia Medical College has achieved international prestige in the past years .It has agreements on bilateral exchanges and cooperation with many universities ,and has established academic ties and research ties with over 100 institutes in about 30 countries and regions

http://www.nxmcedu.com/contact.htm

You can send a email to Nagpur or to Mr.Somaiya of GENESIS at MUMBAI and ask him to help you out. They will certainly help you out, if possible. All you need is 50.00% marks in PCB in 12 th.

ALL THE BEST.GOD BLESS YOU.

K.Vaidyanathan

[kvnathan 0]

Dear Sameer,

You are surprised that that china MBBS has value in USA and europe.

This is because unlike in India,Nepal etc Europe and USA only qualified people are allowed to handle medcine. In India people pass B.Pharm and take up a job in USA. Where do you think? Not a doctor but a at a durg store to handle medicine. They make more money than FRCS and MDs from India.

We have false notions and think Compounder job is for 8 th standard.

In USA you will be sued for million dollars if you give wrong medicine.

May be MBBS China may land in USA as Medical Transcript or radiologist but so what ? our Govt i.e India and Nepal cannot give Jobs. If we learn Chinese , China will give them Jobs. Why feel bad ? Atleast they get a job.

In India and Nepal they are frustrated that after spending Rs8.00 lakhs They cannot get a decent job in India/Nepal.

kvnathan

[sawmer 0]

Dear Sameer,

You are surprised that that china MBBS has value in USA and europe.

This is because unlike in India,Nepal etc Europe and USA only qualified people are allowed to handle medcine.  In India people pass B.Pharm and take up a job in USA. Where do you think? Not a doctor but a at a durg store to handle medicine. They make more money than FRCS and MDs from India.

We have false notions and think Compounder job is for 8 th standard.

In USA you will be sued for million dollars if you give wrong medicine.

May be MBBS China may land in USA as Medical Transcript or radiologist but so what ? our Govt i.e India and Nepal cannot give Jobs.  If we learn Chinese , China will give them Jobs. Why feel bad ? Atleast they get a job.

In India and Nepal they are frustrated that after spending Rs8.00 lakhs They cannot get a decent job in India/Nepal.

kvnathan

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i was not surprised but was more passive with ur enthusiatic sayings....ya thats quite an opinion.....

o and by the way u cannot complete MBBS ith Rs 8 lakhs in china its far more than that...those are just the assurance from the agents in Nepal....

Sameer.....

[kvnathan 0]

Dear Sameer,

You are surprised that that china MBBS has value in USA and europe.

This is because unlike in India,Nepal etc Europe and USA only qualified people are allowed to handle medcine.  In India people pass B.Pharm and take up a job in USA. Where do you think? Not a doctor but a at a durg store to handle medicine. They make more money than FRCS and MDs from India.

We have false notions and think Compounder job is for 8 th standard.

In USA you will be sued for million dollars if you give wrong medicine.

May be MBBS China may land in USA as Medical Transcript or radiologist but so what ? our Govt i.e India and Nepal cannot give Jobs.  If we learn Chinese , China will give them Jobs. Why feel bad ? Atleast they get a job.

In India and Nepal they are frustrated that after spending Rs8.00 lakhs They cannot get a decent job in India/Nepal.

kvnathan

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i was not surprised but was more passive with ur enthusiatic sayings....ya thats quite an opinion.....

o and by the way u cannot complete MBBS ith Rs 8 lakhs in china its far more than that...those are just the assurance from the agents in Nepal....

Sameer.....

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[kvnathan 0]

Dear Sameer,

Thanks for the reply. I agree that the cost sometime goes beyond 8.00 lakhs.

As an agent, we are out of the pictures as soon as as he/she is admitted.

They i.e students can use this medium to convey their problem if the university cheats them.

In India, after the fee revision which is Rs1.8 lakhs per term, it is impossible to do MBBS if you are from a middle class family .Even after one does MBBS, job prospects are dim.

Only those parents who are doctors are keen to get their children MBBS so that thier existing base/practice can be carried on by their children.

Education has becomea passport for a job.

If you do MBBS/MBA/BE from INDIA you do not jobs easily.

Why not go for professional courses where you are assured a job after compeletion.

For example computer courses get you a job fast and you do not spend money in lakhs. Only salary offered is not big.

kvnathan

We have a computer based company who can help you in this matter.

 

[Muskan 0]

Dear Bipin

  As one of x-MBBS graduate of China, I would like to comment on some of the things you have mentioned above. It is absolutely true that Nepalese are blindly going for MBBS course without proper knowledge about academic system. But regarding the quality of medical education of People Republic of China, I will say it is one of the best in world. With my experince in China, Nepal, Europe, UK, I will say in terms of academic structure it is no less than any developed country. If you see yourself, you will find that most of Chinese classmate are very good in their study and in term of knowldge they learn from the same institute, they are far better than you. Every rules and regulations have holes and we, Nepalese, always tend to find this hole and get away with it. The reason Chinese authority being more flexible towards foreign student is merely with the consideration that some linguistic problem can be obstable for the student despite their deep knowlege in field. But Nepalese student on the other hand using this excuse tend to take advenatage of systmem.

    What is most lacking is not the quality control, rather self consciousness among Nepalese student. Why they want to study medicine and what they aim to achieve with their training. One of very basic thing is to learn Chinese language properly and interact with Chinese people.Taking history from patient is first thing your learn in clinical medicine, its a art which can not be achieved without good command of langauge. But those student in so called English medium University, thinks that they don't need to learn Chinese langauge at all. What is even funny is everyone in west are so intersted in learning Chinese culture, language and history and they travel across continent to go china,but  nepalese student in china despite of being in China, doesn't understand the importance of Chinese language and culture.

Without any shame, Nepalese there, try to ridiculate chinese students or chinese people  using words like BHOTE, PAKHE. Just because you speak better English then them, you tend to think that you are better than any of them.

    In the west, USA alone, more 40% of scientist are China graduate.If chinese education is so bad, how could this be possible. With my disticntion and reccomendation from my professor, I have been offer several PhD scholaship all over the world. Many consultant has invited me to join their department.

  So it is not education system that is lacking quality, but it is self motivation, self respect, enthusiasm that is lacking in Nepalese student studying in China.

  I wish you and all your collegeues all the best and suggest you to take advantage of what you have got, rather than blaming the system, ridiculating chinese friends.Learn how to work hard with Chinese people.If you work hard and get good distinction, your future is bright as chinese graduate.

  Good luck.

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well as yatri ji has said,it's upto a student not the education system. but i think it is the language thing that matters coz it's hard to learn language (m not saying it's impossible) and u need a good command of language to u know what ever u r doing either consulting with other fellow doctors or asking questions to ur tutor or taking note of the history of patient so if u failed there then it can be a problem. but as long as u have a good command of chinese language then i don't see any problem. well floks some of my friends r in china but m not so i don't really know. sorry if i have offended u.

but yes i have seen some articles abt chinese doctors who graudated in china went to us and back to their home to practice medicine. it was an article in The Independent abt how the top surgeons of china(post graduates of US) are trying to destroy the brain cells so that a drug addict would no longer use drugs. but it had some ethical issues and some of the professors from here in england had been to observe the surgery as it created an outrage but when he returned he said that he was impressed by the way the chinese are concerned abt the moral and ethical issues .i.e. they knew exactly what they were doing......

 

[Deven 0]

I am not a medical student but for my relatives I searched some courses in Eastern European universities such as Romania. In view of their joining the EU sooner or later and the fee being very cheap about $5000 per year, I think this could be a preferable choice for future doctors wishing to practice in the EU or the UK.

 

But again a cautious and careful step should be taken. See the prospect of your future. If you can afford and are serious, try there.

 

Not only medicine, in any profession, you need to be serious, degree is not everything, you will be acting for God.

 

My best wishes,

 

Deven

[sumanshona 0]

hi friends,

alll abopve we discussed abt the quality of chinese eduacation,the behaviour and sense of friendships in china.....

I STRONGLY ASK ALL OF YOU -what is ur skin colour? are u littlle black? or do you look like the chinese from the west automous region XINJIANG? or to say as whole..you are not a white guy..not form USo europe or somewhere....

for them, china is the hell of descrimination...you feel it, they blame u as xinjinagren..i dunno why chinse need to hate those from xinjinang and tibet...what i am talking is abt feeling...

may be some of us are hard.hearted..they dont care on how chinese think on blacks or we indian faces...but i feel..i am currently in zhejiang, near shanghai..

i am talking abt feeling..there is descrimination on every chinese..not the street guys or vendor, even in the heart of teachers and professors ..you are some who are below position than chinese just because ur skin colour or your body height....

[Limitation//Moon 0]

Sumanshona, we don't need to get uproar, cuz we couldn't get what we wanted insofar. First thing you gotta realise is you have left your home for somewhere and canNOT compare as it should happen as you want in the first place. We all live in condition. If you are not so happy about the place you are in, Is there any possibility ti change for somewhere else? It's bad for health and mind to stay under opression.

 

I will admit that there are certain prejudices even in well known universities but still I believe you also need to admit the fact that you can't just keep on blamin;...chances are there are other places you might be well-liked. And in major cases of such things,minority demographics should have nothing to do with complains. lol

 

Most of us live abroad who is browsing this forum. And i think No matter how tall/short we are, black or white we are, chinese looking or indian looking or the western looking we are. All we are gona see in the end is what do we want to be? why are we abroad? You shouldn't necessarily lay back cuz you think that chinese hates you. What if the case was other way round. What if chinese were in Nepal? Do not get so much frustration cuz they may favour more to their natives than you, that's natural. Face the fact that, you would and could do the same thing in your case.

 

In the end what should matters is ;Academic qualifications, hatred/betray and all other bullcrap is just the part of it that you might want to face along the way lol. You may not like it but unfortunately face it cuz this is what life is lol.

 

hey rather enjoy and forget it, you will find your way.