MSc or PHD students in Newcastle,Cranfield or Dundee University

[NPaudel 0]

University of Dundee would give you better future. Not only because it is in Scotland, also because it has better reputation than new castle.

 

good luck NP.

 

 

Dear Thirdpole, it is for you and for the information of all the others. The "Uk university league table 2008 published by Times online good university guide 2008" shows Newcastle in 23rd place and Dundee in 50. So overall Newcastle is better than Dundee. But the living cost in Dundee is very less as compared to Newcastle. Also if you see the job prospects for the Civil engineering graduates, Dundee has 9 out of 10 ,while Newcastle has only 7 out of 10 of its graduates placed in job after graduation.

 

Whether an university is good or bad depends upon lots of factors. For me even if Newcastle is ahead of Dundee in the overall picture, Dundee is far better for studying Civil engineering because it has a record that 100% of its graduates got job after completion of the course last year.

On the other hand, Newcastle has a very good reputation for the Subsea & Marine related courses.

 

So a university which might be good for someone may be bad for somebody else. It depends upon the subject which you want to study, Job prospects, tuition costs,living costs etc.

 

Ok now what I want to know is that after finishing the MSc there in UK, how many years do I have to stay in UK to get the UK passport and citizenship? Do I have to stay in UK continuously for those years(for example 5 or 6 years may be). What if I have to go back to nepal for some emergency purpose?

[NPaudel 0]

Dear NP,

 

I would advise you to contact Programme Director of the universities that you have preselected for the purpose of your postgraduate studies. You can also ask them whether they have at present or in the past had nepalese students in that faculty. If they have had than they will contact their students and supply your e-mail address so that you will receive e-mail from students. That will give you an opportunity to explore bit more about university and other stuffs. General entry requirement for postgraduate degree are as follows. However, you are again strongly advised to contact particular university with such questions as not every uni has same criteria.

 

1. Transcript and certificate of First degree

2. IELTS with at least score of 6.5 if students language is other than english (However, if you have completed your degree from British University you may be exempted from such condition)

3. Personal statement or purpose of study (for Phd - proposal)

4. Any work experience (especially 3 years managerial experience for MBA)

5. Possibly face to face interview with programme Director

 

Good luck!!

 

I don't think they will accept IELTS 6.5 for Ph.D. Check it with the University, it could be 7 or 7.5

 

And also, try to find perspective supervisor who has interetst in your issue. That is the fast track fro Ph. D. For Masters you have to follow the normal program anyway.

 

If you are looking for funsing as well, then check at jobs.ac.uk if any Universities are advertising GTAship or Research fellowship in the area.

Good luck

 

 

Thank you all for your comments and informations.

I think I had written that I want to do MSc (not Ph.D). I got 101 in TOEFL(iBT) which is equivalent to 7 in IELTS:this is well above the score required by the universities for my purpose. I want to know whether making an online application solely by myself or applying through an Educational agency/consultancy would be better in terms of chances of being admitted to a good university. Does applying through an agency/consultancy give better credibility to my application?

 

Applying through Agency or consultance sometime damage the credibility depending upon the previous students came through that channel. But if you apply yourself, your application will be looked onto on your own personal circumstances. So I would strongly advise you to approach yourself. Moreover, if you aplly yourself, you might be able to request for funding if available, but if you are applying through an agency, most university will not consider funding requests. To be honest, good Universities in UK will not have such a thing called "authentic agent". They migh tbe working with some consultancies but they do not have any inflence in slection process. The so called agent will have relationship with international office in most of the Universities but selections are made by the actual department. I have closely seen student recruitment and selection process on which most of the students who apllied on their own with good academic background got preference. Agency or consultancies are alwyas a money making business. If it is something like foundation or undergraduate level, it is good to apply through an agency not for Postgraduate.

 

You seems to have a very good academic backgroud. So apply on your own.

 

 

Thank u very much.

[yogesh 0]

University of Dundee would give you better future. Not only because it is in Scotland, also because it has better reputation than new castle.

 

good luck NP.

 

 

Dear Thirdpole, it is for you and for the information of all the others. The "Uk university league table 2008 published by Times online good university guide 2008" shows Newcastle in 23rd place and Dundee in 50. So overall Newcastle is better than Dundee. But the living cost in Dundee is very less as compared to Newcastle. Also if you see the job prospects for the Civil engineering graduates, Dundee has 9 out of 10 ,while Newcastle has only 7 out of 10 of its graduates placed in job after graduation.

 

Whether an university is good or bad depends upon lots of factors. For me even if Newcastle is ahead of Dundee in the overall picture, Dundee is far better for studying Civil engineering because it has a record that 100% of its graduates got job after completion of the course last year.

On the other hand, Newcastle has a very good reputation for the Subsea & Marine related courses.

 

So a university which might be good for someone may be bad for somebody else. It depends upon the subject which you want to study, Job prospects, tuition costs,living costs etc.

 

Ok now what I want to know is that after finishing the MSc there in UK, how many years do I have to stay in UK to get the UK passport and citizenship? Do I have to stay in UK continuously for those years(for example 5 or 6 years may be). What if I have to go back to nepal for some emergency purpose?

 

You are right about University rating. Also check hero.ac.uk which is RAE (Research Assessment exercise) based. I know this is crap system but it is known as reliable one. 2008 RAE report is coming out soon but you can see 2001 RAE report for particular departments.

 

UK Passport or citizenship. It doesn't really work that way. When you finish your masters, you will be given 2 year leave to remain under International Graduate Scheme (I hope it is not changed in this April/May), within that either you need to find a job and get work permit or you might be able to switch to Highly Skilled. In any case you will have to stay in UK for 5 year to apply for Indifinite leave to remain and once you get ILR, a year more to be eligible to apply for Passport. Your stay as student won't be counted for the purpose fo indifinite leave to remain.

 

If you are under Highly skilled and if you have to leave UK for any reason you can come back to UK within 2 year and you have to start that 5 year again. If you are leaving UK for less than 90 days that doesn't effect. if it is more than 90 days, I suppose you have to complete that 90 days. if you are in work permit, once you leave the job you are given work permit, you will loose right to abode as well. It is bit complicated.

 

I don't really work on that area although I am in Law School. There are couple of people in WNSO who works in those area. I hope they will reply you clearly.

Edited September 4, 2008 by yogesh

[NPaudel 0]

University of Dundee would give you better future. Not only because it is in Scotland, also because it has better reputation than new castle.

 

good luck NP.

 

 

Dear Thirdpole, it is for you and for the information of all the others. The "Uk university league table 2008 published by Times online good university guide 2008" shows Newcastle in 23rd place and Dundee in 50. So overall Newcastle is better than Dundee. But the living cost in Dundee is very less as compared to Newcastle. Also if you see the job prospects for the Civil engineering graduates, Dundee has 9 out of 10 ,while Newcastle has only 7 out of 10 of its graduates placed in job after graduation.

 

Whether an university is good or bad depends upon lots of factors. For me even if Newcastle is ahead of Dundee in the overall picture, Dundee is far better for studying Civil engineering because it has a record that 100% of its graduates got job after completion of the course last year.

On the other hand, Newcastle has a very good reputation for the Subsea & Marine related courses.

 

So a university which might be good for someone may be bad for somebody else. It depends upon the subject which you want to study, Job prospects, tuition costs,living costs etc.

 

Ok now what I want to know is that after finishing the MSc there in UK, how many years do I have to stay in UK to get the UK passport and citizenship? Do I have to stay in UK continuously for those years(for example 5 or 6 years may be). What if I have to go back to nepal for some emergency purpose?

 

You are right about University rating. Also check hero.ac.uk which is RAE (Research Assessment exercise) based. I know this is crap system but it is known as reliable one. 2008 RAE report is coming out soon but you can see 2001 RAE report for particular departments.

 

UK Passport or citizenship. It doesn't really work that way. When you finish your masters, you will be given 2 year leave to remain under International Graduate Scheme (I hope it is not changed in this April/May), within that either you need to find a job and get work permit or you might be able to switch to Highly Skilled. In any case you will have to stay in UK for 5 year to apply for Indifinite leave to remain and once you get ILR, a year more to be eligible to apply for Passport. Your stay as student won't be counted for the purpose fo indifinite leave to remain.

 

If you are under Highly skilled and if you have to leave UK for any reason you can come back to UK within 2 year and you have to start that 5 year again. If you are leaving UK for less than 90 days that doesn't effect. if it is more than 90 days, I suppose you have to complete that 90 days. if you are in work permit, once you leave the job you are given work permit, you will loose right to abode as well. It is bit complicated.

 

I don't really work on that area although I am in Law School. There are couple of people in WNSO who works in those area. I hope they will reply you clearly.

 

 

Thank you very much.

[thirdpole 0]

sorry NP, I mean to say, Dundee has better reputation due to fact that gradutes from there have more appropriate job than others, while other university graduate end up taking none-graduate job.

 

regarding your british passport, once you finish your study, you need to find job in UK company who will apply for your work permit, once you have work permit, you need to spend 5 years in the UK to get permanent residency. Once you have permanent residency, you need to wait one more year to apply for british nationality/passport. however things may change soon as they are talking about point base system where qualified person can settle quickly while unqualified will not be accepted to settle here. Expect some more changes.

[NPaudel 0]

sorry NP, I mean to say, Dundee has better reputation due to fact that gradutes from there have more appropriate job than others, while other university graduate end up taking none-graduate job.

 

regarding your british passport, once you finish your study, you need to find job in UK company who will apply for your work permit, once you have work permit, you need to spend 5 years in the UK to get permanent residency. Once you have permanent residency, you need to wait one more year to apply for british nationality/passport. however things may change soon as they are talking about point base system where qualified person can settle quickly while unqualified will not be accepted to settle here. Expect some more changes.

 

 

Please don't feel sorry. Thank you for your valuable reply.

[NPaudel 0]

Dear NP,

 

I would advise you to contact Programme Director of the universities that you have preselected for the purpose of your postgraduate studies. You can also ask them whether they have at present or in the past had nepalese students in that faculty. If they have had than they will contact their students and supply your e-mail address so that you will receive e-mail from students. That will give you an opportunity to explore bit more about university and other stuffs. General entry requirement for postgraduate degree are as follows. However, you are again strongly advised to contact particular university with such questions as not every uni has same criteria.

 

1. Transcript and certificate of First degree

2. IELTS with at least score of 6.5 if students language is other than english (However, if you have completed your degree from British University you may be exempted from such condition)

3. Personal statement or purpose of study (for Phd - proposal)

4. Any work experience (especially 3 years managerial experience for MBA)

5. Possibly face to face interview with programme Director

 

Good luck!!

 

I don't think they will accept IELTS 6.5 for Ph.D. Check it with the University, it could be 7 or 7.5

 

And also, try to find perspective supervisor who has interetst in your issue. That is the fast track fro Ph. D. For Masters you have to follow the normal program anyway.

 

If you are looking for funsing as well, then check at jobs.ac.uk if any Universities are advertising GTAship or Research fellowship in the area.

Good luck

 

 

Thank you all for your comments and informations.

I think I had written that I want to do MSc (not Ph.D). I got 101 in TOEFL(iBT) which is equivalent to 7 in IELTS:this is well above the score required by the universities for my purpose. I want to know whether making an online application solely by myself or applying through an Educational agency/consultancy would be better in terms of chances of being admitted to a good university. Does applying through an agency/consultancy give better credibility to my application?

 

Applying through Agency or consultance sometime damage the credibility depending upon the previous students came through that channel. But if you apply yourself, your application will be looked onto on your own personal circumstances. So I would strongly advise you to approach yourself. Moreover, if you aplly yourself, you might be able to request for funding if available, but if you are applying through an agency, most university will not consider funding requests. To be honest, good Universities in UK will not have such a thing called "authentic agent". They migh tbe working with some consultancies but they do not have any inflence in slection process. The so called agent will have relationship with international office in most of the Universities but selections are made by the actual department. I have closely seen student recruitment and selection process on which most of the students who apllied on their own with good academic background got preference. Agency or consultancies are alwyas a money making business. If it is something like foundation or undergraduate level, it is good to apply through an agency not for Postgraduate.

 

You seems to have a very good academic backgroud. So apply on your own.

 

 

 

To study MSc in Newcastle Univ, they require Second-Class Honours degree in an appropriate discipline or an equivalent. What is the meaning of this Second-Class Honours degree? Please explain to me if you know.