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#1 sanskar

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Posted 20 June 2003 - 03:56 PM

How far the national anthem that we used to recite time to time in different occasion, reflect the Nepal and Nepalese ?
Well, we can have long discussion on this if one wish.

Today, i read kind of anatomy of our national anthem and its origin.
if you wish, here is the link.
http://www.himalmag....rspective_2.htm

Some selected points from that article for those who do not want to read long one.

Nepal did not have a national anthem as such till about 100 years ago. The Rana government of the day, it seems, made do with whatever melody came in handy for official events and celebrations. Local folk tunes, popular melodies and sometimes even a likeness of God Save the Queen would be played by the military band as the occasion demanded.

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The original anthem was like this:

Shreeman Gambhira Gorkhali prachanda pratapi bhupati
Shree-paanch sarkar maharajadhirajako sada rahos unnati
Rakhun chirayu eeshale praja phailiyos pakaraun jaya premale
Hami Gorkhali bhai sarale

Bairi saru haraun, shanta hun sabai brighna byatha
Gaun sara duniyale saharsha nathako sukriti katha
Rakhaun kaman, bhari biratale Nepalimathi sadhai nathako
Shri hos thulo hami Gorkhali ko

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For these reasons, many songs have been proposed as alternatives. Among the numbers vying for the top spot is one penned by the firebrand 1940s poet and political activist Gopal Prasad Rimal and put to music by singer-composer Ambar Gurung. The song glorifies the Nepali flag: “Rato ra chandra soorya, jangi nishan hamro…” (‘In red, with the sun and the moon emblazoned, our martial standard…’) A more recent aspirant has been a long-forgotten song by one of the first successful poets of Nepali and a prolific writer, Shambhu Prasad Dhungel. Dhungel was given the title of ‘Aashu Kavi’ by Chandra Shumshere, who was impressed by the poet’s natural ability to simply churn out verse. The song, long forgotten, was resurrected by the singer and musician Deep Shrestha recently. It refers to the Nepali’s need for respect, which has a certain resonance today when the country is dealing with a serious problem of image: “Har bakhat harek kura ma, mana hos Nepalako, jaha jaha jaun hami, shaana hos Nepalako”. (‘All the time, and in every sphere, let Nepal be honoured; wherever we go, may we find Nepal perceived in glory’.)

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Perhaps the ideal national anthem would be one that extols and glorifies
exclusively the diversity – geographic and human – that makes up the nation-state of Nepal .

by kamal Dixit on himal south asian.

Edited by sanskar, 20 June 2003 - 03:58 PM.

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Posted 24 June 2003 - 11:51 AM

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The original anthem was like this:

Shreeman Gambhira Gorkhali prachanda pratapi bhupati
Shree-paanch sarkar maharajadhirajako sada rahos unnati
Rakhun chirayu eeshale praja phailiyos pakaraun jaya premale
Hami Gorkhali bhai sarale

Bairi saru haraun, shanta hun sabai brighna byatha
Gaun sara duniyale saharsha nathako sukriti katha
Rakhaun kaman, bhari biratale Nepalimathi sadhai nathako
Shri hos thulo hami Gorkhali ko


This anthem reflects the real patrotism towards gorkhali n nepal.The present one is just praising the king and queen .It seems as if we are for king ,not for country.The song"hatne hoina dati ladne "is more suitable as the national anthem on my view.

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#3 sanskar

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Posted 26 June 2003 - 11:30 AM

Shriman garib nepali
bhrastachari, natawaad ra kripawaad

hami nepali ko sadaa rahos ahogaati
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Posted 29 June 2003 - 10:33 AM

QUOTE (love_united @ Jun 24 2003, 11:51 AM)
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The original anthem was like this:

Shreeman Gambhira Gorkhali prachanda pratapi bhupati
Shree-paanch sarkar maharajadhirajako sada rahos unnati
Rakhun chirayu eeshale praja phailiyos pakaraun jaya premale
Hami Gorkhali bhai sarale

Bairi saru haraun, shanta hun sabai brighna byatha
Gaun sara duniyale saharsha nathako sukriti katha
Rakhaun kaman, bhari biratale Nepalimathi sadhai nathako
Shri hos thulo hami Gorkhali ko


This anthem reflects the real patrotism towards gorkhali n nepal.The present one is just praising the king and queen .It seems as if we are for king ,not for country.The song"hatne hoina dati ladne "is more suitable as the national anthem on my view.

same feelings here....
HATNE HOINA DATI LADNE NEPALI KO BANI HUNCHA...
KAHILE NAJUKNE SIR UBHEKO SWABHIMANI NEPALI HUNCHA..
BISWA KO KUNA KAPCHA MA KHOJA
NEPALI KO MUTU MA KHOJA ...
TYAHA SINGO NEPAL HUNCHA...
TYAHA RAJA RANI HUNCHA...

Love_united jee, Raja Rani ta yaha pani cha...... Sayad pahila dekhi Raja Rani lai bhagwan manne hami Nepali ko chalan jastai bhai sakeko le hola Nepali rastriya geet haru ma Raja Rani lai praise garne bhawana haru le bhariyeko word haru le bhariyeka..... tara time ta ho..... je pani change hudaicha.... aba kehi barsa pachai hamro Rastriya Gaan Pani change hola ni hoina ra???
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Posted 29 June 2003 - 12:06 PM

Newapasa ji,perhaps u have to wait for a revolution for making a national anthem of public's desire.The influence of royal family was so much in the past that each and every national anthem was written on them.But the craze of royal family is not the same now.We need a change.We have to bring a day which is totally prajaataantrik.Well,for instance,what do u think
"raato ra chandra surya jangi nisaan haamro"as our national anthem?
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#6 kamal

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Posted 30 June 2003 - 01:30 AM

I like it very much.

this is a true rastriya geet...... our histry and present and future.

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Posted 01 July 2003 - 12:12 PM

raato ra chandra surya.. ta malai pani maan parchha..

tara mero bichar ma yo geet ali voilent chha jasto laagchha.. ra hamro jasto peace country ko laagi yesto geet national anthem ko laagi suit gardaina. Nepali gorkhali haru ko ladai ra bir gaatha euta katha jastai bhayee sakyo.. tesaile baru, yo geet bhanda, aru kunai geet, jasle
Himal ko kura garos, buddha ko kura garos, Janak ko kura garos, nadi naala ko kura garos, nepali culture ko kura garos, testo geet rastriya gaan hunu parchha.

allare lai jhhok chhale bhane, allare le pani euta rastriya geet ber laaundaina.. laugh.gif laugh.gif tara mero geet lai sur ra sangeet dine khoee chha yanha? laugh.gif
WNSO ma euta rastriya gaan ko pratiyogita garoun.. biggrin.gif

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Posted 02 July 2003 - 01:20 PM

QUOTE (love_united @ Jun 29 2003, 12:06 PM)
Newapasa ji,perhaps u have to wait for a revolution for making a national anthem of public's desire.The influence of royal family was so much in the past that each and every national anthem was written on them.But the craze of royal family is not the same now.We need a change.We have to bring a day which is totally prajaataantrik.Well,for instance,what do u think
"raato ra chandra surya jangi nisaan haamro"as our national anthem?

Yes love_united ji, we need a revolution now...... that is the need of this generation. And I fully agree with you in " But the craze of royal family is not the same now. We need a change." Yes love ji, we need a change......and that change must be in the favour ours in the favour of JANTA......We need now Prajatantra..not Sishu Prajatantra...... Matured Prajatantra , which should have the at least a brain which can drive our country in the way that Buddha made and in the sky where every morning I wish we could see a sun...which brings the ray of love, peace and prosperity...... in all Nepali.
RATO RA CHANDRA JANGI NISAN HAMRO...
JIUDO RAGAT SARI YO .............
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Posted 03 July 2003 - 07:41 AM

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QUOTE (love_united @ Jun 29 2003, 12:06 PM)
Newapasa ji,perhaps u have to wait for a revolution for making a national anthem of public's desire.The influence of royal family was so much in the past that each and every national anthem was written on them.But the craze of royal family is not the same now.We need a change.We have to bring a day which is totally prajaataantrik.Well,for instance,what do u think
"raato ra chandra surya jangi nisaan haamro"as our national anthem? 

Yes love_united ji, we need a revolution now...... that is the need of this generation. And I fully agree with you in " But the craze of royal family is not the same now. We need a change." Yes love ji, we need a change......and that change must be in the favour ours in the favour of JANTA......We need now Prajatantra..not Sishu Prajatantra...... Matured Prajatantra , which should have the at least a brain which can drive our country in the way that Buddha made and in the sky where every morning I wish we could see a sun...which brings the ray of love, peace and prosperity...... in all Nepali.
RATO RA CHANDRA JANGI NISAN HAMRO...
JIUDO RAGAT SARI YO .............


I fully accept ur view newapasa ji..
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